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Plagiarism on Allpoetry

*Plagiarism*.........the act of passing off as one's own, the ideas or writings of another.
In simple terms, related to this site, if you copy a poem written b
Plagiarism.........the act of passing off as one's own, the ideas or writings of another.

In simple terms, related to this site, if you copy a poem written by somebody else and post it under your name, thereby claiming it to be your own work it is Plagiarism.

This not only applies to famous poets, Poe, Ginsberg, Wordsworth etc, but also to anybody that has written a poem or story. No matter what their skill level, age, race, colour, or creed. You are not allowed to "steal" their work. Added to this is the temptation to take a poem and alter it slightly using some of your own words to disguise it, this is not allowed. This is still an act of Plagiarism.


How would you feel if one of your friends applauds your work and tells you that you have a fantastic talent for writing?  It is not only insulting to the person who originally wrote it, it is also stealing, and lets be honest, stealing is against the law.

We all know how hard it is to come up with original ideas for poems. We may consider what we write to be unworthy of posting. But, on the positive, whatever you write from your own thoughts they are all yours. No one can take that away from you. Imagine one day writing something and being congratulated by all and sundry for a work of brilliance, and knowing that every word belong to you. Original works of art, not stolen words, wins Pulitzer or Booker prizes.

Plagiarism is punishable here, on Allpoetry  by (first offence) a one week ban; (second offence) is a permanent ban from the site. There is no ban for copyright violations where credit is given, we just ask that it be removed and explain why.

If you intend to put a quote or short poem on your author page as a lot of poets on this site have done you must cite the following:-

Original Author
Source of quote including publication, page number etc
Date published
And maybe ISBN number
.

This citation is important not only to you but also to the original Author.

So, having read all the above, now it's time to let your imagination take you places far away, let your own feelings and thoughts inspire you to write poems you will be proud of. Who knows who might stumble across a poem you've written. There are a lot of famous Authors, Playwrites, and Musicians who use the Internet daily.

One of them might be reading a poem on this site right now.

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  • theredcatjazzoflove gold member
    July 16, 2008
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    Thanks for this list i have people from out the woods emailing me stating i can post my poetry here and there and just a lot of wicked stuff and i only have two pages but on both i make it clear that it is me and i am covered by copy right i have two registration numbers i always feel so uncomfortable on this site about my work and others stealing it so i hope i am safe if not i am copyright anyway thanks
  • shamricka
    October 24, 2007
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    how do keep my poetry safe.

    do you get penalize for stealing someone elses poetry, because i am like scare to continue to put work on here.

  • Wesley Storer
    October 2, 2007
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    Are there any ideas or subjects left that haven't been written about thousands of times in different ways? I don't mean Like George Harrison unknowingly stealing the melody to "My Sweet Lord", from "He's so shy", by the Pointer Sisters. He was a well to do talented gentleman at the time, and it is unfortunate how he and his associates never became aware of their mistake. It just goes to show how easy it is for anyone to mess up. I always enjoyed George Harrison's music and the Beatles. I think it is extremely difficult to call most ideas someone's intellectual property, guarded under copyright. It used to be that anything written beyond 70 years ago was considered to be in the public domain, but I suppose relatives descended from those previous writers think they should own it under laws of inheritance or something. I have never knowingly written anything that I knew belonged to someone else. I believe this copyright business has discouraged many potentially great writers from giving themselves a descent chance and I don't think that is right. I hope your discriminating views apply equally to all genres and categorys of music being sold on the market today. Alot of artists are going to go down! In summation I will boldly state that probably
    anyone can be accused and convicted of plagiarism by a copyright lawyer who is shifty enough. I don't think you should be allowed to insinuate someone is a plagiarist before the fact has been legally established. I really think you should declare the author's piece you think was robbed when you insinuate someone is guilty of plagiarism. I would sure like to know who I have unknowingly plagiarlized. I will close by saying I don't believe Hollywood has had an original idea in years. They are robbing the rockin'chair making movies with characters from funny books our grandparents used to read. Ces't Le Vie!
  • Minozake
    September 23, 2007
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    What of legal plagiarism?

    • Wesley Storer
      October 2, 2007
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      Oh well. Plagiarism or no plagiarism, have we not all been bored to death by the repetitious redundancies perpetrated on the gullible masses by Hollywood? I don't think they have had an original idea in years. They keep robbing the rockin' chair, espcially all those old funny book character our grandparents used to read.

  • TheDjinn
    August 6, 2007
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    [nitpick]
    Original works of art, not stolen words, wins Pulitzer or Booker prizes.

    wins-win.

    [/nitpick]

    I would go into more details and give examples of what constitutes plagiarism and what constitutes inspiration. My two cents

  • LionessK Greeters member
    November 3, 2006
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    Hi there.. you can go to the poem and ticket it.. at the bottom under the comment box there will be a form with "Inappropriate content on this page? Please let us know which rule this poem is breaking" or you could go to allpoetry.com/ticket and leave a complaint there with a link to the poem.

    ~Kristy

  • November 3, 2006
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    I FOUND A POEM THAT WAS PLAGIARISED ON THIS WEBSITE!! A MEMBER PLAGIARISED A POEM BY THE GREAT FRANK YERBY, AFRICAN AMERICAN INTELLETUAL GIANT. THE PLAGIARIST CHANGED THE TITLE AND GAVE NO CREDIT TO HIS NEARLY LINE BY LINE STEALING OF THE LATE FRANK YERBY'S POEM. THE POEM CAN BE FOUND IN ITS ORIGINAL IN:

    The Cornell West Reader, by Cornell West

    THIS IS DESPICABLE ESPECIALLY THE PRAISE HE ACCEPTED IN HIS COMMENTS.
    Edited on Nov 08, 10:42 p.m. because 'username removed'.

  • J Rhys Davies
    September 17, 2006
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    Using Characters from a story to make up your own poem is a touchy subject when it comes to plagiarism. I would recommend that you make sure to place in your author’s notes section that you are using characters from Alice in Wonderland. I would also give credit to the author of the original story in which your characters came from. If there are any issues with it being a direct violation of AP’s policies, you will be notified, but I believe you should be “ok” as long as you give proper credit to the author, and are sure that your work does not resemble a story within their collection.

    John

  • Wayne Leon Learmond
    September 16, 2006
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    I have written an poem called: 'WONDERLAND.' I have posted it on here. My poem contains some of the characters that are in Alice in Wonderland. But my poem is original - my own work. Would that be considered as plagerism? As I have said, my poem is completely my original work.
  • bitter sweet joy
    July 21, 2006
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    hey i am a new user and i have noticed that some of the lines in my poems are similar or the same to other peoples. is it plagerism if a line in yours is similar or the same to a line in someone elses? or is it just when the whole poem is the same?
    Edited on Jul 21, 1:06 p.m. because ''.

  • misticmoonlite gold member
    June 18, 2006
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    very good detailed information here, punishment for stealing is really lienant on this site, do it once do it again, why chance it, with the same person..but agree if you like someones work ask permission to use part of it, or detailed comment as to why you used it. thank you for re-posting this..
    MisticMoonlite...(Linda)

  • J Rhys Davies
    June 7, 2006
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    nokiot2,

    Did they purchase rights to print your poems, or did they purchase the copyright to the poem itself? Who did they give the money to? Those questions answered will help in assisting you.

    John

  • J Rhys Davies
    May 30, 2006
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    Hello AussieMeffkin77. The only time you could be accused of plagiarizing is if your work mirrors another’s. Obviously we are all inspired in one way or another. I hear a song, and the words sometimes trigger my muse into overdrive. Now, if I use the same wording, that’s not plagiarizing, unless it is exactly the same, word for word all the way through.

    Plagiarizing is the act of passing another’s work off as your own. As long as you write it from your heart, and you are not copying it from someone else, you are pretty safe. But don’t just take another’s work and simply changes words around. That’s a big no-no, unless you are writing a parody or something similar to that.

    John
  • AussieMeffkin77
    May 29, 2006
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    I am a new user, and I am worried about accidently plagiarising, because sometimes my poems feel and sound like writer's I am inspired by. What if I am accused of plagiarism and I know I didn't do it?

    Thank you.

  • Everybody Lies
    February 12, 2006
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    This is a really good column, highlighting an issue without being patronising or condecending, you guys did well. (I think so anyway!!)
    Talia Alyssa
    xxxxx

  • J Rhys Davies
    January 30, 2006
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    Hello Noha Adlan. Sorry for the delay in getting an answer to you. Unfortunately, there are people in this world that have this idea that they can ride on the backs of good poets, and steal their work. I have seen it happen from my own, as well as from the masters’ works too, like Shakespeare and Poe.

    Obviously there is no way to “make sure” that no one plagiarizes your work and tries to claim it as their own. The best thing I can offer to set you mind at ease a little is this: AllPoetry has a feature where it actually copyrights your work as you post them. Whenever you post, there will be a message: All rights reserved, © J Rhys Davies. Copying without permission for non-personal use is forbidden. (that’s how it reads on mine)

    Hopefully this helps you out with that question. If you ever have any other things you want to know about, please feel free to contact me anytime.

    John
  • Nuha Adlan
    January 28, 2006
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    i am a new user here... may it be a nice beginning i just want to make sure that no one can take my poems.. what am i supposed to do if that happens? i am asking so because it happens to me it hurts me great deal as if taking one of my babies away? try to help me as soon as you can please

    thanks

  • J Rhys Davies
    December 3, 2005
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    Macey Muse, to a point you are very correct. There is a fine line. But you will need to realize that plagiarism is the act of taking another’s work and trying to “sell” it as your own. Basically, it would be like me saying that I wrote the rhyme “Twinkle Twinkle, Little Star.” How could I have since its first publication was in 1806? That’s blatant plagiarism.

    Sure, a lot of posts on this site are inspired by a song, or maybe a conversation, and sometimes even a movie that is seen. It’s OK to write something from that experience. It’s not OK if you lines from them word for word and say that they are your original words. Do you see what I mean?

    If you ever have any questions, feel free to contact me or any one of the Greeters on this site for help with clarification and such.

    John
    AllPoetry Greeter Coordinator

  • Macey Muse
    December 3, 2005
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    I agree that plagiarism is wrong, but as with many things in life, the definition is not always crystal clear. If we write a poem based on a published work of fiction by another author, but add a disclaimer in the authors notes, is that considered plagiarism? And would such a poem be allowed to be posted on this site?

  • September 20, 2005
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    Agreed. The following two works, posted by remembermychains, are mine, she not only did not state her source, she also changed certain words as if to claim them as her own.

    allpoetry.com/Poem/1505226

    allpoetry.com/Poem/1501542

    My original pieces are here.

    www.xanga.com/item.aspx?user=airglow&tab=weblogs&uid=339661486

    www.xanga.com/item.aspx?user=airglow&tab=weblogs&uid=343653186

    Thank you for your stand on this matter.

  • J Rhys Davies
    June 10, 2005
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    I would recommend that if you were to do this, that you write it from a “first person perspective.” Don’t write it like you were telling the story as if you were just making it up. Start it off with how you came across the story. Or, you could simply make note that this is a story that your Grandma told you and that would help eliminate the possible accusation of it being plagiarized.

    If you still feel the need to further question this, you can contact a Site Moderator: www.allpoetry.com/moderators and they can let you know if it really would be plagiarism, beyond a shadow of a doubt.

    John
    AllPoetry Greeter Coordinator

  • DamnUnique
    June 9, 2005
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    I just wanted to know whether I can write a poem regarding a kinda story my grandma told me.It's regarding the God's for special families,that is,the families with special kids.
    If I do write a poem regarding that,will it be considered plagiarism?

  • May 12, 2005
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    Plagiarism/stealing is a SIN! No if's, ands, or buts about it! This is not the 1950's but GOD is the same! And GOD says, "The wicked will not go unpunished". "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom" Remember GOD loves you but will chastise!

  • aslanlight
    April 20, 2005
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    There is a fine line between plagirism and previously collected knowledge. I entered a contest with a poem and it turned out to be very inspired by a book that I'd previously read. I put that in the author's comments.
    The author of the book had the same views as me about heaven. Did I have these views before I read the book or did I partly formulate them through reading it. Possibly a bit of both, I'll never know.
    One of my quotes on my author page as 'aslanlight' is:-

    'If you steal from one another, it's plagiarism; if you steal from many, it's research.'
    Wilson Mizner

  • thepyromaniac
    March 20, 2005
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    Thanks for bringing up the issue. A strong awareness must be arise from this topic to prevent similar offences.

  • J Rhys Davies
    March 13, 2005
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    Bree, if you are planning on using a line from a song, I would recommend putting quotation marks both in front of and behind and making sure that you give credit to the song and songwriter it is from in your author’s notes section on the page of the poem. That way you are making sure it is known that you are not claiming that line as your own creation.

    ~ John

  • cayleyxox
    March 13, 2005
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    well i agree with this i would hate that. i have 1 question though. someone told me we could use a line from a song in our poem and i dont know if that would be right or not? do you think you could answer me?
    thanks
  • blind ecye dog gold member
    February 8, 2005
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    Interesting subject!One which cries out for debate.
    First I think the question in the third paragraph would hold more sway were it asking,"How would you feel if you applauded someones poem and told them they had great talent,only to find out all or part of it was stolen?"
    Which brings me to my point.Every note of music that can be played has been,at some time,played.Every word in the dictionary has been used,at least in that dictionary.Nearly every 'original' piece of music,when critically heard,reminds us of something we have heard before.It is inevitable that a finite number of notes or words will be arranged similarly by dissimilar artist.
    I condone plagarism not at all and think it should be punished not only on this site,but in the courts as well.So to take one or two lines from a poem or story that may be similar to something we have seen or a theme we seem to recognize and call it plagarism is a very dangerous crossing.I have seen poems with obscure sayings in quotation marks in some great poets works.Because they could not find the source of a familiar quote are they then plagarist?I think not.Nor do I believe,with the levels of media saturation,that younger people when writing even realize where their inspiration is drawn from.A line from a song that is exactly transcribed is questionable at best when considering it's originality.
    By the way,you plagarists,the definition you have at the top of this column has gone unannotated or accredited.I leave you to ponder the self-punishment you shall impose.With tongue firmly implanted in cheek,I leave you.A very informative piece. RED

  • Sai Babas Lotus
    January 15, 2005
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    Plagiarism scares me!

  • horus8 gold member
    December 19, 2004
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    Plagiarism is the highest form of flattery, by the lowest sort of cad.

  • AndrewHide silver member
    November 12, 2004
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    I wonder how this site would accept honkadori, as this is used in short form poetry (mainly Asian) it can often be an image which can be forty percent of an entire poem.


    Andrew
    Edited on Nov 12, 8:29 because ''.

  • Sensual Sapphire
    November 8, 2004
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    this is a question re plagerism.how much of a "scene" can someone use before it is considered stolen material?I read a story awhile back and i'm not sure who"s it was but I kept thinking I know this story. I've read of these same events before!.And how is the truth determined does someone take the time to look at it from both ends?I did not mention this as I was not sure exactly how it was going to be handled.Maybe a bit more on the "how we determine if it is plagerism"maybe i'm just slow! oh well any info would be helpful thank you
  • JImmyHD
    September 4, 2004
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    Talk about info. That will prove helpful. Thanks.

  • August 19, 2004
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    Aeolian Song, I totally agree with you on this one! What a scare!

  • August 18, 2004
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    HEY!!! I already wrote this last month. I'm reporting you


    "Originality"... how can we be original when we are crafted by things that have already happened... how can children write about love and the world when all they know is a blade and MTV. How can the mind expand and explore new things when the mind is enclosed inside the internet.....

    I was being a bit ponderous there... good subject.
    Yay to originality!
    Edited on Aug 18, 3:19 because 'I am some sort of twit'.

  • sidewinder silver member
    July 28, 2004
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    I've been writing for 30 yrs. it would anger me very greatly if someone had stolen my work.
    shakes head
    If only some would learn.

  • Zahhar gold member
    July 15, 2004
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    As a life-long poet, I've always been terrified of one thing:

    That I could be falsely accused of plagiarism. Meaning, that I would spend umpteen days and hours writing a piece of art only to have someone steal it and then accuse me of stealing it from them. I'm not sure just how poorly I'd react to such a thing, but the fear has been in my heart since I started writing at the age of 12.

    Most of what you see from me will be work that I have spent litterally weeks on, even the little poems, and I'm always revisioning. Here's hoping this is a safe place to post.
  • LadyLazarus
    July 8, 2004
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    unless it is blatantly obvious. plagiarism is hard to prove. it can also happen unwittingly, such as someone making a mistake in taking citations, but, should that be punished the same as someone who has out and out copied? the same debate has been going on in alot of universities around here.

    go mods, go, i HATE copiers, but can understand that mistakes happen.
  • Silver Nothing
    July 5, 2004
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    jade2003 or something plagiarizes a lot

  • SaraLynn
    July 3, 2004
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    found it!
    Saras Jason- My Oath To You (my bfs)
    Tu Leona- My Oath To You (other)
    I did just notice though it is now deleted, but this issue still needs solved.. not necessarily with jason and whoever the other person was, but other people who DO have that issue! If I could like somehow be one of those people.. i dunno what to call it.. plagiarism police.. hehe.. it sounds funny, but yeahh.. *sighs* i guess thats what the moderators are for!! *smiles* *roots for THEM* GO MODERATORS!!

  • SaraLynn
    July 3, 2004
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    thanks.. will do.. i need to find the other persons first..

  • rufina caraid gold member
    July 3, 2004
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    Yes you can - it's added to your personal list as a poem is.

    Von

  • SaraLynn
    July 3, 2004
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    i find this column VERY important .. and i dont know if there's a section where you can put VERY important things at, but it should go somewhere at the top!! lol.. this needs to be remembered and put into though cuz people aren't bothering!!
    i do have a question though to.. can i put a column on my thingy if i like had a point or issue to put down even though im not like a high rank kind of person? just wondering~

  • rufina caraid gold member
    July 3, 2004
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    If the poem you refer to is on Allpoetry please pass on the link to the Moderators - then they are able to deal with it.

    Von

  • SaraLynn
    July 3, 2004
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    My boyfriend has a serious issue with this... I mean, when people copy his poems and such.. I was looking on here the other day and Jason (my boyfriend) was behind me and I was like.. look hun, there's a poem that has the same title (thinking nothing of it cuz it happens, but doesnt mean its copied..) and so, he's like bring it up.. i wanna read it.. so i did and it said the almost exactly what his did.. i mean, if it was even rewritten at all.. it wasnt much!! he was like X-( and im like.. calm down.. i cant do anything about it, but he was upset.. cuz then in the author's comments of it.. she put.. this poem isnt mine.. its a friends (didnt state who and it WASNT Jason) and it was like.. grrr! the idea of it i guess is alright to copy, but not the words.. like when ya do a contest.. the options (ideas) on it.. maybe you cant join at the time, but like the idea so ya write it down for later.. thats the closest thing i do to copying..

  • Smilingspider
    June 30, 2004
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    UPDATE (geez I need a life)
    in one week:
    662 new poets
    8207 new poems
    48729 new comments
    6 comments per new poem, but then does that include these posts?

    Yeah I need a life.

  • Nam
    June 29, 2004
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    Yeah, I know about those laws, we still, in Florida, have stupid laws.

    Like on Sundays if you walk your Ass (mule/donkey) on the lefthand side of the road, your Ass will be taken away and you will serve 30 days in jail.

    Still a law. A lot more other stupid laws. Oral sex, if you are caught having oral sex (male/female) (male/male) (female/female) then you go to jail. It's against the law to have oral sex. But, the question is, how do they know you are having oral sex without them committing a crime?



  • June 29, 2004
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    Yeah, Nam there are a few odds and ends to work through, but we'll get there. Any ideas you have or any info that might be of interest let us know. ISBN is a bit silly isn't it, but I put it in because it's law, but then again where i live in this suburb of Australia, walking a dog on the RIGHT hand side of the street is still considered a felony, as is blowing ones nose in front of a lady without excusing ones self. All laws from the 1800's but beuracratic (sp)<----? red tape leaves them in place. Have A look around your own council by laws Nam, see what you can find. Will make a cool Bulletin column I reckon hehe.. thx for commenting. Dave.
  • Rue
    June 28, 2004
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    Nicely done, and I agree. I don't think there's really a point to copying others' work... after all, it's not like we're in this for money... I guess people will do anything for points... -sighs- ...

    I think the ISBN is a bit superfluous, though...

  • Nam
    June 28, 2004
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    You have a spacing error in this line 'Plagiarism is punishable here, on Allpoetry by (first offence) a one week' between the words 'Allpoetry' and 'by' should backspace once on 'by'

    In this part:

    If you intend to put a quote or short poem on your author page as a lot of poets on this site have done you must cite the following:-

    Original Author
    Source of quote including publication, page number etc
    Date published
    And maybe ISBN number.


    What if we just have the poem, short story, quote - whatever, and who wrote it, and that's it? Are we going to get into trouble if we don't 'you must cite the following' cite all the rest you list?

    Other than that, I found this to be informative to those who do plagiarize. Nice article.


  • Molassis
    June 28, 2004
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    OK, I have a question... I posted a poem that I did not write... let me explain, there was someone in a chat room spouting poetry so I copied it as he said it... then asked him if I could post it here. He said yes and I did. In the author comment section I told everyone that I didn't write it AND the title even says 'for dark dragon'... is that still Plagiarism? I don't want to do anything wrong. ~Melissa

  • June 28, 2004
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    agreed...plagiarism is 100% unacceptable...
    but it appears that there are exceptions made on this site.
    in my opinion, kevin needs to come up with a firm policy. when is something considered plagiarized. is it when a person copy/pastes something verbatim and then gives no citation, or is it when someone changes words around and maybe adds or subtracts a few and then calls it their own? or, or, or.
    i have pointed out blatant plagiarism (privately - first to the person doing so, then to a moderator) and basically been told to mind my own business. so now when i see it, i don't even bother to report it any more. one mod says one thing, another says another, kevin says another...yadayada. in summation...one firm policy, all mods follow same policy, policy is in effect for all members. full stop.
    grouchy this morning, sorry...but this is a huge problem (in my eyes) on this site.
    ~liz

  • Closetothend
    June 28, 2004
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    If people copied my poems id feel sorry for them they have no creation i dont even try to make a poem it sad if you have to pleggurise
  • cruzingalong
    June 28, 2004
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    good show. we dont need any of those theiving @#$%^%$'s nickin our stuff we've all worked so hard to imagine and put down on paper (or keyboard).

  • Smilingspider
    June 28, 2004
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    Tuesday 6/22/04 site members 54,367
    Monday 6/28/04 site members 54,849
    482 new members.
    Tuesday 6/22/04 poems 551,753
    Monday 6/28/04 poems 557,888
    6135 new poems in just over 5 days or 1227 a day.
    A big task to look through all them every day.
    Yep upto the individual to ensure that only their own work is posted as such! Intellectual rape.

    Pb
    Edited on Jun 28, 3:13 because 'maths doh!'.

  • NurseHayley
    June 28, 2004
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    I am no expert but I believe this is loosely based on the Harvard referencing system, a well used academic form of referencing.

  • DougMcCue
    June 27, 2004
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    There are a lot of famous Authors, Playwrites, and Musicians who use the Internet daily.

    One of them might be reading a poem on this site right now.

    (and even they might steal your work)

  • DougMcCue
    June 27, 2004
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    so the first time you steal someone's work you get a slap on the wrist... I suggest that since all writters know what plagiarism is... the first offence is death... because if someone steal's my thoughts i would kill em'... but if they have adopted an idea of mine i would welcome it... but death to pilfering punks...

  • moonlitmirror
    June 27, 2004
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    I'm glad that someone defined what plagerism was finally. I know that the sites been having problems with it for a long time. I think that everyone should see this so they know what is and what isnt plagerism.

    ~blessings~

    ~rora

  • Night Hope gold member
    June 27, 2004
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    Bravo...swan
  • DeadlyKisses
    June 27, 2004
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    Thank you for posting this! So many people have stolen some of my ideas or poems and changed them to make it their own! I'm so glad someone posted something to let them know it's wrong. I've tried telling people it's not right and to please take the poems that they've copied and take them off of the site, but unfortunatelly they don't listen to me since i'm just one person! Again thanks for posting this!
    Much Love,
    Sarah a.k.a DeadlyKisses *smoochies*

  • Touchof1der gold member
    June 27, 2004
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    This serves as a good reminder. Even when you know the rules, it's easy to forget sometimes. Especially with short quotes and phrases. What if you don't know the author? Is it acceptable to simple put, "Author Unknown"? Just curious...

  • Yemassee silver member
    June 27, 2004
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    You wrote:

    If you intend to put a quote or short poem on your author page as a lot of poets on this site have done you must cite the following:-

    Original Author
    Source of quote including publication, page number etc
    Date published
    And maybe ISBN number.

    Not as a complaint, but what is this based on? Is this required by the site or by some other act? It seems rather a lot to add to a simple quote. Here's and example: If I quote say, "A thing is mighty big when time and distance cannot shrink it" by Zora NEale Hurston, I now need to add the ISBN, the source where it is found and the date? I can't believe that this is the case. And in fact, have I just infringed Hurston's rights by not knowing the source, etc. of this readily available quote? Hmmm. Any way, it is just a question. Thanks for your time.

  • Zeek
    June 27, 2004
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    Cool

    Yeah, I'm definitely glad someone adressed this. My poetry has been plagarized a couple times actually and every time it hurt just as much. My poetry is so personal to me that for someone to call it their own and even make up a story behind it just makes my blood boil. The AP staff is so good about finding it though- I was alerted everytime my poetry was being copied [on this site anyway*] Thanks for adressing this though- hopefully it will thwart the next plagiarism attempt

    ~Zeek

  • kittycatds
    June 27, 2004
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    I had a friend a long time ago ask to borrow my book of poems because she wanted to read them. Stupid me let her, only to find out a month later that she apparently copied some of my work and was showing others as if it was her's. Had I wanted to I could have really scared her because one of the pieces she used was something I did have published. I am sure her english teacher would of like to know that.
    Well even I have listened to a song that "inspired" me or another write, I just can not see what joy there can be from claiming something as my own when it isn't...

  • emancipation
    June 27, 2004
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    i second this motion...
  • Ex-Euphoria
    June 27, 2004
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    Excellent! I'm glad someone finally addressed this.

  • Blushfulmoon silver member
    June 27, 2004
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    Excellent advice
    I wasnt aware that if you did post something the author, the page number and the ISBN Number had to be posted with but I know now
    Thanks for posting this one
    I will keep my eyes open
    Hugs
    Susan~~~~


    Edited on Jun 27, 6:02 p.m. because 'error~'.
  • Ryan S
    June 27, 2004
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    would anyone actually be that uncreative to have to steal someone else's poem?

  • 7 Windows
    June 27, 2004
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    thank you soo much for this. the other day i spotted a piece and made the AP staff aware of it. I was offended, because it was the work of a terrrific authoress (unknown). It was a great idea to post this, becuase people on AP must be more and more aware of proper conduct on this site. I would make it a note to AP members when they are greeted, becuase some of them don't know it's wrong. Great column.

    Love always and God bless,
    Meg
  • Kelpylion
    June 27, 2004
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    Informative column, though I thought everyone already *knew* these things. I mean, we've all had this lecture in school, right? It may be cruel to say this, but a lot of badly written poetry could be considered plagiarized, since many poems contain the same cliche` phrases and metaphors as a thousand others on the same subject. You don't have to copy word-for-word to be guilty of shameless unoriginality, and it's a much more frequently-committed crime.
  • bowie
    June 27, 2004
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    Amen to that!

  • cherche -d -ame gold member
    June 27, 2004
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    I have on one or two occasions just seemed to notice that a line or so seemed to be very similar to a famous writer's , yet with the changes made to it ...I am not sure if that was plagerism , as the rest of the poem seemed to be the writer's own words ....so I really did not bother to even mention it , but this is a good article to have posted ,
    Reenie

  • fool no1
    June 27, 2004
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    What satisfaction can there be from drawing pay from another mans packet...
  • pozo
    June 27, 2004
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    I think this is a very important subject to be addressed. Plagerism is wrong, I have only seen one incident of it on here. Because the poet was young I believed this may have been a genuine mistake (they may have been trying to put it onto OldPoetry) and I just wrote 'A little too much inspiration from Emily Dickinson perhaps?' on their work. In future, however, I will remain vigilant and report all poems that are plagerised.

  • kyew
    June 27, 2004
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    a bad side to all this is that even if your writings are plagerized, there's little to no chance of getting anything for your trouble.

    if no monies were were made from the posting of a plagerized poem/story, you can't sue for anything (or so I've been told)

    eh, I myself don't really care about it. my poetry is for everyone. take it if you want it. there's one consolation in this whole thing for me and that is...

    you cannot take the source!

    I'll always write and, if you need to steal poems, it's obvious YOU WON'T!

  • Duana gold member
    June 27, 2004
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    I ma so glad you wrote about this- that someone will steal my work. As a new poet, I am afraid of this. It would be great if you did a part two to this article explaining the process of how we can best protect our work. Hope everyone on AP reads this!
    Edited on Jun 27, 3:43 p.m. because ''.

  • June 27, 2004
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    Hmm... I think everyone on the site needs to read this...

  • White Dragon
    June 27, 2004
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    Howso very ture. One should not Steal, and just action is encouraged...PI know of someone who was afraid of this happening, and it bared her from joining this site...Good to know of the rules.
    ~W.D.

  • shastadaisey123 silver member
    June 27, 2004
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    when I first joined AP,my granddaughter spotted a very popular groups song under a poet's name as original work...since I was new I really did not know what to do...now I closely watch amd know what to do...I do not worry so much about someone stealing my work.....I just think it is sad that people sometimes feel the need to "plagerize"...we are all supportive and try to help each other be creative...that is why I am here..this is probably the best websites I have found...so I applaud everyone, the "watchdogs,Levin and of course,these wonderful writers...excellent article...thanks for running this...freda

  • Kegger
    June 27, 2004
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    I'm so glad someone has finally taken some action against this. Only a few days ago was I on someone's contest poem, and they had copied out Silhuettes by a band called Smile Empty Soul, and entered it as their own into the contest. I was extremely annoyed at this as it is one of my favourite songs and to see someone else take the credit for it, is just shameful. Sure ive seen songs and thought wow I wish I could share them with the world, but I've never and I never will pass them of aas my own. This is disgraceful. Thank you for a very informative colum.

    KeggeR *

  • Scarlett silver member
    June 27, 2004
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    I am against plagiarism; however, I cannot find all of the information you say is needed to cite it. I simply have the author's name on my author page above the poem. I believe that should be enough seeing as that plainly states I did not write it and I am just a humble admirer of Browning's work. I do not mean this to be harsh in any way, I am just stating my opinion.

    You know you love me,
    A

  • melons
    June 27, 2004
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    To Quietly burning :
    Thats the beauty of a love for writing, nothing and no one would ever be able to stop me writing and hey, if they steal it then they must at least like it lol . Thanks for the encouragement

    AP is actually one of the best sites i have come across!

    Unfortunately, with the numbers of people in the world and the freedom of the Internet highway, it would never be possible to prevent some form of plagiarism from taking place somewhere in the world...but...equally so, if someone recognises that plaguirism is taking place then they should let it be known..

    As for people who steal work from others, well it is far more rewarding to be recognised and 'applauded' for personally created work...far more self satisfaction and pride involved than if its just nicked from someone else. Add to that, if plaguiarisers spent the time and energy on their own creativity rather than searching the net for work to steal then that is a far better use of their time...

    Sorry Quietly Burning...I am likely to go on with this subject if i don't tape my mouth shut now lol.....

    Cheers,

    Mel x

  • quietly burning
    June 27, 2004
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    well Mel ... maybe its a sign of good writing. I am sure that anything good is copied and plagurized out there somewhere. Don't loose heart .. keep writing, keep fighting and don't loose heart .. AP is far from perfect but it is still rewarding.
  • mike a rodriguez
    June 27, 2004
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    it sucks to know that everything "i've written" is considered against the law. i'm a bad man. arrest me know before i take over the world with my plagiarized poetry.

  • melons
    June 27, 2004
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    Funnily enough (or not so funny as the case may be!) I only joined AP because a search on Google showed that one of my pieces of work was on here! When I investigated, I found my work being plaguiarised from my website. following complaint the work was verified as mine and removed from AP, but lo and behold, the offender struck again and stole my work once more. They were then banned from the site (supposedly!). I wrote a large amount of IM's to various people on AP, in order to get my work removed from this person and, in effect, had to prove that the work was originally mine! (Not that hard to do really, but a pain in the backside none the less, because I spent several hours in total writing im's back and forth. I joined this site so that I could become a part of the community and also so that I could keep an eye on things with respects to my perpetrator. They even had the gall to leave messages to me on my own website!

    Below is a quote from the original response I gave to my Welsome to AP (its still there on my Home page here) :

    'thanks for the welcome. Unfortunately I found your site whilst doing a search engine search on my own site and I determined that one of the members here had plaguiarised 3 of my stories and one of my images. This member was someone called ENIGMA, who has since (last night) been removed from this site for breeching my copywrite. The moderators AnnD and Symitar were very helpful and supportive. What was worse this person had entered one of my main stories into a competition.'

    Enigma was the name of the first person stealing my work, subsequently someone called Joker619 (or something) stole my work too and was banned (as far as I know). These people were eithe one and the same or knew each other as Joker mentions Enigma in some of his/her comments. Some of you may know these people or remember having read 'their' work .... now you know why they were banned!

    Oh well, thats the end of my ramblings