Evil men in lofty realms
Told the world a lie
To justify pre-emptive war
Now many more shall die
Before this unjust war shall end
Twill be an awful toll
Do they not know or even care
What happens to their soul ???
Lets pray that all mankind someday
Will embrace The Prince of Peace
And beat their weapons into plowshares
Then hate and war will cease
Author notes
Wrote this poem at the start of the war on Iraq - It was based on lies - and vengence - it is not for us to pre-emptively strike or even strike back - it will be nigh to impossible to win a war when you are fighting an unknown force.
Written October 4th, 2006
What did you think
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I don't really know why the war is still going on. I don't think that we should have our troops in Iraq. As far as I know, there are many brave men and woman out there dying and sometimes we take it for granted.
I appreciate the people who are out there risking their lives for me and everyone else in this country.
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Thanks For The Compliment
And thank you for the applause/rewards as well - the war is still going on because it is a no win situation as far as I can see - to many lives lost for naught - but when the leaders are bent on war, what are the people going to do? The warmongers are at the helm of the Good Ship U.S.A. and have sailed Her away off course - and except they repent of their wicked ways, they will burn in Hell - Keep on keeping on - you are a good writer - Bless God - Joe - (Dobar Dan) --------------------------------- protest the war
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Very well written, as usual! I'm not going to comment on the content because by own feelings about it are so conflicted. Regardless, I will always be proud of our military and have nothing but the highest respect for them.
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Thank You loopster
The illegal war on the people of Iraq was an act of evil - it is ok to be proud of your military I suppose - but the ones that send them into harms way for naught will face the judgment - as adult we decide to go to war, then send 17 year olds out - glad I'm not the judge - go to Google and type in Son My then click on My Lia Massacre - thanks for the compliment and applause/rewards - Bless God - Joe - (Dobar Dan) ------------------------ hagd
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War is not always the answer in this case the President had no choice but to send our troops to Iraq. Having a father and two brothers in the military I am proud of the work they do for our country. My father who is a commander often told me "Son fighting for our country is an honor and never forget that". I have been all over the world in the travels of my parents and the USA is the best place in the world. It was good that they capture Hussen and hanged him, he was a terrible person to the people living in Iraq. My father told me it should of been done in 1991 during the first Desert Storm War. I can't enlist into the military but I stand by my brothers and father for what they believe. All the men and women who have fought for us and died have met the Prince of Peace. Your poem is your opinion rightly so.
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Canada Is The Best Country On Earth
The President did have a choice in the attack on Iraq - but he choose the low road. The war on Iraq was evil - it was a major mistake. It is right to be proud of your military when it is fighting for your country, but in the case of Iraq they are not. Yes it is an honor to fight for your country but there is no honor in the last Iraq war. John McCain says he wants to leave Iraq with honor - this is impossible because the coalition forces entered Iraq dishonorably. Saddam Hussein was a great friend of the U.S.A. for years and the U.S.A. supplied him with weapons to fight the Iranians for years. H.W. Bush knew what would happen if he had occupied Iraq in 1991 - it would be a big mess with the different factions there. It is still possible that Iraq could become ab Islamic Republic when the coalition forces leave. It is not good to hang anyone - even Saddam. He was charged and convicted with signing the death warrant for 142 people that were attempting to overthrow the government of the day. As President of Iraq he had every right to do so. The young men and women that died in Iraq - what a waste - nothing would be different today in the U.S.A. as far as safety goes and they will only see the Prince of Peace if they know him, not because they fought and died. We as believers are not allowed out "own opinion" - we must base it on "What would Jesus do" - Bless God - Joe - (Dobar Dan)
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Here is a little history for you from my father. His friend is in the Marine and he was over in Iraq at the time Hussien was captured. They showed my father pictures of his palaces which was nothing but gold all over. He had many. The furniture had gold arms, pictures were framed in gold etc. The man was evil to have the life of a king yet his country was falling apart. There were many people who are poor and he always thought of himself. He could of fed and taken care of so many people but he chose not to. The pictures that my dad saw was disgusting to think one man had that much power. He deserved to die just ask the Iraqians. Evil men will go to hell and repent for all eternity. I disagree with you that Canada is the best. I have been through several parts of Canada but was always glad to step my feet on the grounds of the USA.
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That Was No Excuse To Invade
Iraq was doing okay until the evil attack upon it. It was invaded because of WMDs (there was none) there are many leaders in the world that are as bad - why not invade them as well? There was a trade embargo on Iraq and a "no fly zone" over 2/3 of the country for 12 years - for you to say he deserved to die may be so but we are not allowed (As Believers) to take his life. Yes Evil men will go to Hell but there will be no repenting for them ever. You disagree that Canada is the best country on earth - in your first message to me you said that the U.S.A was the best country on earth - I simply answered you. Of course you are glad when you get home - most everyone does. Why is the gun related murder rate 50 times higher in the U.S.A. (per capita) than Canada? Is it because you have 685,000 guns amongst the people or is it that Americans feel that they can settle the score with a gun. Australia, Canada and Norway have been chosen the 3 best countries on earth.
Bless God - Joe - (Dobar Dan)
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Brilliant poem!! I could not agree more, especially with:
"lets pray that all mankind someday will embrace The Prince of Peace".
This is your opinion and I think it was wonderfully stated, even if other's (poetes.maudits) don't seem to agree. You're either for or against the war, and I don't see how that makes a persons opinion BIASED in anyway. I don't trust our government and they do lie. But of course that's my opinion
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Thank you for sharing this poem!
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Thank You For The Comment/Compliment
You can know that I am against the war in Iraq - it is evil for sure - based on lies - I think you and I are on the same page - trusting government is not a good idea - we are to trust in the Lord - obey and understand His teaching - I really like YOUR opinion IceQueen - We (Christ Followers) are not allowed our own opinion because we are His ambassadors my poem "The Vietnam War" and "The Garden Garden Gate" are worth a look - Bless God - Joe - (Dobar Dan)
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I rather like this piece. You're right.... war is just a way of putting a problem aside, and feeling strong by killing.
the line "Do they not know or even care
What happens to their soul ???" is one of those that just packs a punch, so to say. Brilliant.
Keep writing; I hope to read more of your work!
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I read the long review below and was disgusted by it. You are right - the war had a hidden agenda, but the politicians TOLD us they were waging it because Iraq's dictator had refused to let in UN weapons inspectors. They lied.
I don't think this is a particularly terrific poem, having said that, but I can see merit in it, and support your right to express your opinion in this way. Good luck to you. -
wouldn't it be grand if man could
just be enlightened by the toils and conscious of those who have suffered the evils of war past and present and somehow learn from their mistakes instead of having such an ignorant need to do it all over again.
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Stanza two, line two; "Twill"
"n.
1. A fabric with diagonal parallel ribs.
2. The weave used to produce such a fabric."
Unless you understand the grammatical and punctual uses of Middle English I suggest you refrain from usage -unless you want to look like a fool
Triple consecutive punctuation (???) is used in advertising and only advertising for a reason: it is punctually absurd and makes the question conceited.
You talk of peace but use an antagonistically hateful approach to the protagonist perspective> blatant irony is useful... not when it is self destructive.
The war wasn't just about vengeance. Main features were social reform, domination, religious difference/social difference (odium theologicum)and political promotion. Most of this was under of a guise of helping the country out.
In conclusion: steer clear of writing about politics. This is overtly biased and pretentious - two things that shown a sign of immaturity and lack of knowledge on a topic.
The only two emotions you have available here is either for the dire end of the spectrum or the other dire end--
discourse on the unknown antagonists
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discourse on the protagonist perspective.
Not a very balanced poem.
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I am fairly new here and reluctant to join an argument. However, it is not fair to call someone "biased" simply because you disagree with their viewpoint. If you agreed with it, it might still be biased in someone else's eyes.
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Been Told That Before
Just nevr got aroun to changin it - I am semi-illiterite - so youll have to fergive me for my goofers - "call no man a fool" - the w3ar was about vengence and based on lies - I were Twill trowsers al the time - Yu have your views I have mine - I am 71 years old and I like the old masters when it comes to poetry - paintings and music - sorry about that - Bless God - Joe - (Dobar Dan) --------------------------------hagd
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A very deep write about a hot topic. I loved reading this poem because politics is something I avoid as much as I can. But this actually made me not care about all of that and I loved it! Great write!
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Take time to read the comment next to yours - It just goes to show how different we are - thank God - I writes the way I seez it and don't worry about what others may think - Bless God - Joe - ( Dobar Dan ) ------------------------------ hagd
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I have to say this one is beautifully done. My hat is off to you. Without peace there can be no progress. I love the wording in this it is wonderful. Hopefully more people will think like this soon. Wonderful write!
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Thanks for the comment and compliment on this poem - I am sure more people are seeing the folly of this evil war - to bad that so many have died and so many more will die yet - it is such a waste - Bless God - Joe - (Dobar Dan)
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nice poem
war in any form is to be condemned
peace gives us prosperity
war withholds all developmental activities
many will become orphans and pinches heavily the nations economy
hate the war love the peace
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I'm glad you are a lover of peace - the spoils of of war never outstrip the misery it brings - thank you for the compliment and true comment - Bless God - Joe - (Dobar Dan)
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I think this one is a skillful use of words and I love the opening line. It makes it sound like something from Lord of the Rings, or a fiction novel. But that adds to its appeal. You then go on to understand the political statement you're trying to make. All in all I like it.
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War is all about economics my friend, It's sad but true and though i may not support this particular war i can't help but say that American soldier dies without giving his consent, they chose to enlist they knew the risks though many did join in peace there is always that voice in your head telling you to be wary. "Those who want peace would do best to prepare for war"
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Beautiful
wonderful to the maxi
This sounds rather accurate to me.
But line one may need a fix up. doesn't seem to fit properly.
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Bless Godv - Joe - (Dobar Dan)
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Fantastic. I'm all for peace. I even wrote a poem on the same war. Fantastic flow, short and to the point, Great read -
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Peace be with you
I'm glad you liked it - keep on keeping on - I will get to your poems as soon as I get a new computer - I am using the library one now - Bless God - Joe - (Dobar Dan)
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Loved it. I'm all for peace. Your write has a great beat, rhyme scheme, and a lot profound phrases that really struck a cord with me. Thanks for sharing !!
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Glad You Loved It
Glad you are a LOVER OF PEACE TOO - IT SEEMS THAT MAN IS BENT ON WAGING WAR - THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS AND APPLAUSE/REWARDS - peace be with you - Bless God - Joe - (Dobar Dan)
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War is a awful word to me. I have seen too much blood shed with our young boys in my life time. When will we learn that death of our own people will not solve things? I pray daily for it to end...maybe soon. Thought provoking poem, thanks for sharing
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Thank You for the comment and compliment - war is an awful word for sure - when will we ever learn? - probably never - death of other people won't solve thing either - it is great that you pray for an end to the madness and don't forget the Iraqis as well - Bless God - Joe - (Dobar Dan)
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Thank You Kev
Thats a great pic of you - lol - Thank you for the comments - this poem is about a specific war - a war that never should have been - to instigate war is easy - just pick a weak nation, demonize it and it's leaders then "shock and awe" bomb the crap out of it - I suppose greed enters the equation as well - as far as fighting for the sake of others - we can use that as an excuse too. Bless God - Joe - (Dobar Dan)
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so true, arrogance has gotten a hold of humanity, to kill to stop the killing. seems like a no brainer. where oh where has connonsense gone. excellent write. I hope everyone reads this write powerful words God bles
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Hi - See U have a new name
Thank you for the comments and compliment and applause/reward - evil has gotten ahold of humanity - the war on the people of Iraq was evil to say the least - there are many that don't like this poem - but they are warmongers and they have no place in Christ's kingdom - except they repent - Bless God - Dobar Dan - (Joe)
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An enjoyable piece of poetry, war, it is ancient no matter the conflict, we always find ourselves in its grip, perhaps we like killing each other for we have done it over the ages. A good poem.
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Even though this is truly a good peice of poetry, you have to know that, the war wasn't an easy solution to come by. War is never the best or fist option.
Do you want to know what my Squadron motto is? "Peace through readines. It says it on my hat, on my squadron patch. no one condones war.
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this is a powerful piece and i liked it alot and war is a horrid thing id have to agree that we need peac
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Thank You For Your Comment
It is so hard to have peace on earth with warmongers calling the shots. They will all have to give an account for their deeds one day - Bless God ----------------- Joe
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Try taking your head out of the toilet seat!!! George Bush is the bestest!!
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Hi Jennie
Nice to hear from you - of course you would think George W. Bush is the best - you are dummies for sure, just like him - well maybe not that dumb - nobody could be as dumb as that zero. He has murdered thousands of Iraqi and his own have died doing his bidding - 3 million internal and external refugees - all because of King George - the blood is on his hands - Bless God - Joe
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Expressive and honest: good qualities in a poem, and your poem has those in it. Your rhyme isn't too bad. Your beat is pretty good, but I would recommend rereading the last stanza. "Then hate and war will cease" > It sounds a little forced in beat. I feel it throws off the ending point and the rest of the poem's rhythm.
Overall, I like it. Since it was written over a year ago, you might want to use your newfound skill and edit it to give a revised, new and improved edition.
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Thank You Kindly For The Honest Report
I wrote the poem before that date - even had it on Poetry.com - but thank you for the critique - I do quite often go over my poems and edit them - I will edit the last line for sure - thanks - "That war and hate may cease" - my first poem kinda that got on paper and a poetry site was "The Lowly Mole" - from then on I'm almost hooked on this site - lol - P.S. I had a stroke 6 months ago and the "newfound skill" you mention needs to be found again - it's coming back - Praise The Lord - and Bless God - Joe
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I clicked on this poem aftr seeing the first two lines. I was all set for a great, meaningful, possibly angry view of Iraq. Unfortunately, that's not what I got. The first two lines were great. After that, yes, you get your point across, but it's nothing new. People have been telling us that Bush lied and that Christians (and everybody else for that matter) should be against this war effort for ages. While I agree with you, you don't bring anything all that original to the table. It just didn't do it for me.
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The People Of Iraq Deserve Better
Why would I say anything angry about the people of Iraq - To say my poem is meaningless is your opinion only. You say "unfortunately" you didn't get what you expected in this read - it is the truth so help me God. Bush did lie -
Tony Blair lied and host of others in high places lied - no doubt about it. But G.W. Bush is just a puppet doing the bidding of those that are really in power. And of course Christians should be against the war, after all they ought to be following the teaching of Christ ehhh? Yes - the story can not change - the war was wrong from the start and it is wrong now. I am sorry that the poem didn't do anything you - it should have - "Righteousness exalts a nation but sin is a reproach to any people" - Bless God - Joe -
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I don't know what you mean by Bush only being a puppet, but I'm not going to argue the point with you.
I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm not saying you have bad ideas. What I didn't get in this read was something new and different. It's not anything else other than the fact that your way of presenting your ideas is trite and cliche. People have said what you're saying before, but not only that, they've said it in exactly the same way. -
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I Would Love To Argue The "Puppet"Theorty
As long as cool heads prevail - at the first sign of attack upon my person or name calling - You will go on my "ignore list" PDQ. You can challenge my ideas my country and my leader or my religion any way you want to as long as name calling stays out of it. Bless God - Joe -
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I am sorry that I can't reinvent the wheel for you - What does trite and cliche mean? Of course people have been saying the same thing I am saying and exactly in the same way - you can not change the truth. Well I thank you again for refraining from name calling - let me how you would change the contents of this poem - Bless God - Joe -
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Maybe you should educate your self a little. Were you even there? Read a newspaper not liberal bumper stickers.
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Thank you for the comment - I think - lol - To suggest that I am uneducated is pure speculation on your part sir - I am well educated - and knowing that the war on the people of Iraq was wrong takes wisdom and following the teachings of Christ - the vicious "shock and awe" attack on the people of Iraq was evil - and the ones that visited it on them are evil and anyone that supported it are evil: If the shoe fits;wear it. And yes I haven't been there, and I read the newspapers every day and have never seen a "Liberal bumper sticker yet to my recollection - perhaps you get your education from conservative bumper stickers. 'Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people" Bless God - Joe -
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We had intelligence from a prisoner of the German government who formally worked very closely with Sadam that gave very detailed descriptions of WMDs. The intel turned out to be false. But, it was convincing enough to convince the US, UK, German and Russian governments. But, that is how most intel is. It’s never 100%. Now we have to make that most of the situation we are in. We also need to establish stability within the Muslim community. The war is not on the people of Iraq. The war was on there government. Most of the citizens of Iraq are thankful. Soldiers are dying for there country and trying to do the right thing for others. Show them some respect. To call them or the intelligence agencies “evil” is grossly disrespectful, offensive and ignorant.
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Thank You For Commenting
Those that believed the lie are as guilty as the ones that told the lie. We have the smartest people on earth leading us - if they did the math, they would have known there was no WMDs - I knew and I'm just a pee-on. For you to say the Russians and the Germans believed the lie is not true - they are smarter than that. Intel. is not always 100% for sure - but it ought to be before attacking a country. You are right when you say "We have to make the best of it" - Please tell me how? You cannot make a right out of a wrong. The Vietnam war was wrong and so is this one. Are you joking when you say we (who?) have to establish stability in the Muslim community - Ha Ha Ha lots a luck. - you say this war is not on the people of Iraq - tell that to victims of this cruel war. You say most of the people are thankful for foreign troops to be occupying their land - why not all? Soldiers are doing what they are told to do and what they believe - and I am not against the troops - but I am against the ones that sent them there - I respect the troops too - why do the troops have to be used in this argument? I did not call them evil - just the ones that started the mess - I will wait for your reply - I am offensive for sure - never disrespectful and not ignorant by a long shot - Bless God - Joe -
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You're right. Intel should always be 100%. But, it isn't. It never has been and never will be. As to Germany, Russia...I'm not going to argue about historical facts.
As to why not all the Iraq's people are not happy with us being there, the other portion believes we are Christian infidels and we should die because we do not worshiping God correctly.
If you do support the troops - that's great. I misunderstood you. I'm not saying the leaders are entirely correct or that I would make the same decisions. I'm saying that it's a fact that this situation is far more complicated that good and evil. But, if anyone is evil it is men that blow themselves up for 73 virgins. They need to be stopped. That's what we are trying to do. -
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I was saying that Intel. should be 100% before war is launched - but there was plenty of Intel. at the time and the powers that be knew the truth - Israel would know every move that Iraq made. When Iraq was building a nuclear facility back in the 80s - Israel simply bombed it - Canada was not believing the lie as well -
They consider us infidels but then again we consider them infidels too. And if we continue to occupy their country and act totally un-Christian;who can blame them? We are not to render evil for evil.
I can see how you mis-understood me - so I will rephrase the quote for you - "The war on Iraq is evil, those that visited it on them are evil and those that voted (supported) for it in Congress were/are evil" - I was not referring to the "lemmings' and the "pawns" of society. John Edwards ($400 hair cut guy) said he was sorry he voted to go to war - Hillary Clinton (Bills puppet) said " If I knew then what I know now I would have voted against the war" what a crock ehhh? - and John Kerry (The anti-Vietnam war vet) even voted to go to war - that was an opportunistic move on his part, because he had his eye on the White House and didn't want to appear weak -
The situation is only complicated because the Coalition forces invaded the country of Iraq unjustly - and I do hope and pray that the war ( the occupation) ends soon - If you are a just man (a believer) you should know what your decision would have been. John McCain want to leave Iraq with honor - it likely won't happen. I hope it does but whatever the outcome everybody will have their opinion on it.
As for the "evil" suicide bombers - it it may be their weapon of choice - they do not have Stealth Bombers etc. "All is fair in love and war". To say they need to be stopped is a pipe dream - they just keep popping up. And to say "thats what we are doing" is simply not true. I thank you kindly for refraining from name calling - thats how wars start - Bless God - Joe
P.S. - won't comment on the 73 virgins - lol - HAGD
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This is a great poem and well done to you for expressing your views. I truly believe in what you have written here and hope that someday peace will reign over mankind. I know there are many out there who do not share these same views, but that is their choice. Well done, this is really great.
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We all have choices in life - it is up to each of us to make the right decision - the decision to attack Iraq was evil for sure - the wolves in sheep's clothing are running amock supposedly in the name of righteousness - but righteousness can never be administered out of the barrel of a gun. Thank you for the comment and the agreement - Bless you - so often I feel like a voice crying in the wilderness when it comes to things like war and violent retaliation - Bless God - Joe
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Great rhythm, rhyme and flow in these lines. Easy to read and understand what you are writing about here. Lies - to start a war. How can one win with that?
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And thank you for compliment as well - I try to rhyme all my poems - and I'm glad you liked this write - and you are right about winning a war - the attack on Iraq was evil - "righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people" - Bless God - Joe
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great sentiments as well. but don't you know that all those in power always lie/use/deceive etc. just because they can
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Thank you for the comment and applause/rewards - yes I know they do those things - but to tell lies to justify war is beyond me - but the first casualty of war is truth as Winston Churchill quoted. the attack on the nation of Iraq was evil - and the ones that visited this evil on them will be judged in the final judgment - except they repent - Bless God - Joe -
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Sadly wars have been going on for years, It was something that had to be done and the evil was the terrorists who bombed America. Striking back with force is the only way they understood. You say in your comments it was based on lies and vengence, that is your thoughts. Lucky for America we stand proud of who we are that no terrorists will take us down without consequences to them.
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War was birthed that day just outside of Eden - Cain was jealous of Able - but it really started in the Garden of Eden when Lucifer came to Eve in the form of a serpent and beguiled her - and there are many reasons why wars are fought - It certainly was an evil act by evil people attacking America - I cried - and I cried as well when Baghdad was bombed. there was not one Iraqi involved in the 9/11 attacks - America did strike back in Afghanistan - and that is where it should have stayed - we (Canada) are there too - we have lost more troops per capita than any other force there - It is the thoughts of the majority in America and Canada that the war on Iraq was based on lies and vengence - many say it was for the oil - so these are not just my thoughts but the thought of 75% of the world,perhaps the majority is not right.The terrorist were from Saudi Arabia and Yemen and Egypt - The attack on Iraq was evil - It is fine to stand proud when you stand for righteousness but attacking Iraq is nothing to be proud of - If you think the Vietnam war was a waste of time and lives then this is even more so - Thank you for commenting on this poem and thank you for the applause and rewards - "Righteousness exalts a nation but sin is a reproach to any people" Bless God - Joe ( An ambassador of the Lord Jesus Christ)
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Well, arguably, evil is a subjective concept. And even more arguable, is the idea that evil does not exist. I also wholeheartedly disagree with the concept that there can only be peace once everyone finds God, considering more people are killed in the name of God than in anything else throughout human history. It is easy enough to argue the deception used by the government when proclaiming war on Iraq, but I think it might have been better done in something longer than a single paragraph.
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You are right about people waging war in the name of God - even when they claim they are God followers - but I do think there were and are wars fought for territory - politics - empire building - the spoils of war and just plain ignorance as well - and God wasn't even in the equation ,just the wickedness of mankind and evil - arguing whether evil exists or not would be a waste of time - as far as "The Prince Of Peace" statement goes, He promoted peace in His teachings - could preach a sermon on that but I won't _ lol - and the lesson in English - well this is poetry and anything goes - I see people use !!!!!!!!!! after a statement - one would suffice - thanks for the comments - Bless God - Joe
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I wholeheartedly agree with the opinion you've put forth in this piece. I not only love the rhyme and flow of it, but the words are so true. I wish more people could see that.
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I'm glad you agree Marie - It is so hard to have peace when warmongers are at the helm - they think that rightousness can be administered out of the barrel of a gun - violence only begets more violence - but I have a lot of people that disagree as well - thanks for the compliment - Bless God - Joe
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Peace: that is the Mother of War.
T'will = it will
Twill = a sort of cloth
abcb rhyme scheme and rhythm well, simply, done. *clap clap*
Lets = (he/she/it) allows to
Let's = let us, or allow that it is to be, etc.
I disagree with the philosophical proposition of the poem, if not the ethical subcurrent. No, I shall not pray to any "PoP" pap rap.
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Thanks for the comment and applause and reward - Yes Twill is what my coveralls are made of - don't know about "Lets or Let's though" It is fine to disagree with the poem - but to rap pap my "PoP" was not in good taste - The attack on the people of Iraq was evil, and those that visited it on them are evil and anyone who supported it are evil - Bless God - Joe
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And you are very welcome - glad you liked this poem - this poem is my way of say it as I sees it - and thank you for the applause - many think this poem is to critical of the war - but I say it is not critical enough - Bless God - Joe -
I am a conservative american, and even i think the Iraq war is a mistake. Like you, I think Bush did that for personal reasons, and it's going to come back on us hard and heavy in the end. Afghanistan was justified, tho. We owe it to ourselves to avenge september 11, 2001, but Iraq had nothing to do with that. Bush says it does, but thats BS.
Republican or Democrat, what I would give for an honest man in the white house. i'm sick of having a choice between crook A and crook B. -
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Well you are a bit like me I guess - on some things I'm very conservative - and on some things I could be considered liberal -(I don't like that word) you are right about Iraq - I'm not to sure about Afghanistan though - but at least they may have been involved in 911 - none of the 19 terrorists were Afghans - Vengeance is not ours. Time will tell if it was a justified war -
I like your Crook A and Crook B choice - a lot of the politics are a family affair - lol - like a monarchy of sorts - Bless God - Joe
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AMERICAN VETS know not to come looking at Canada sites. Write what you will you bring a lot of heart ache and pain to people.And you do nothing absolutely nothing shame on you and shame on Canada.
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Shame on Canada ???
The amount of hurt that has been caused on the people of Iraq is beyond shame - it was evil - shame on G.W. Bush and company for the pain they caused - Canada has nothing to be ashamed of - doing nothing in the case of Iraq was the right thing - but if you want to bury your head in the sand and hide from the truth - so be it - Bless God America - Joe
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Still reading the others you've suggested, but on this one "soul" should be "souls."
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Dobar dan to Dobar dan and his poetry. This is written with nice poetic expression, very meaningful and strong with a good message at the end. I knew some people who had to die after their return from Iraq. It was a quite good question:
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Before this unjust war shall end
Twill be an awful toll
Do they not know or even care
What happens to their soul ???
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I am glad that I found your site. I hope I will read more of your poetry.
~Sonja~
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Dobar dan to you too Sonja
Hello Sonja - Thanks for the comments and applause - They are very much appreciated - I write poems to make a point most of the time - I do hope you do read more of my works - I will get to your sight ASP - Yes the Situation in Iraq is unbearable Sonja - you will like my poem "Freedom Reigns" - I wrote it at the start of the Iraq war - to make a comparison - "Rightiousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people" Bless God - Joe
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